Our security is not in our hands. By all account its in hands of few that control the levers. We on the other hand are happy to go about our lives shoping, watching TV, working, complaining about politicians, buying crap we don't need, and so on.

Someone will have to better describe what is "Security"?

Are we secure when we have everything?
Are we secure when all of our enemies are dead?
Are we secure when we have access to all of world's resources?
Are we secure when no terorr can be inflicted on us?
Are we secure when we don't have to pay our share?
Are we secure when we are the only nation standing at the end?
Are we secure when we have monolplized the enitre world?
Are we secure when we have rest of the wold in our back pocket?

Bush whitehouse lies and being disingenuous when they describe the battle against occupation as a band of one or two individuals. Didn't LBJ try to do that in Vietnam?? Mr. President for your information since you've been having your head in the bible recently, the Arab and Muslim opposition to your and your predecessors are much more deeper in those societies than one terrorist. Wake up dude, although, I understand why you can't openly say that to American people. Because then the answers are very hard to come by and your advisor would say it would damage US interests. But a righteous fight against terrorist or two is much easier to sell to the gullible public. Well, we'll have to see on Nov. 2nd.

Here is another idea:

The war on terror has masked the real battle in the post cold war era. If the desires of Arabs and Muslims for self determination is allowed to take hold by ex-colonialist and current imperialists the need for war on terror will disappear as well. We will then have to confront terror in much different way.

First of all the few extremists that will not benefit from stability will have to fight their own people and it will not be a US alone conflict. Second, there will be so much constructive discussions that few extremists will not find an ear or support to mount a major attack of any kind.

BUT THE KEY HEAR IS the west, EU and US will have to remove the hegemony cock out of the middle east ass. This will either happen voluntarily because it will provide for West security and safety. Or, Arabs and Muslims will to take that on for themselves. The only problem is that this way it will take a very long time since Arabs and Muslims are not historically and culturally ready for such take over yet.

West can however be a catalyst to speed up the process of bringing the Arabs and Muslims to full participation governance.

One of many factors that can expedite the process is for a fresh US government in Nov 2nd. May be then we can have a new start without the old bad blood. The compassionate conservatives in US have shown that they are not capable of global governance. They are so entrenched in dogmatic form that leading a pluralistic world is not possible. When you have leaders that so openly talk about will of GOD an doing God's work, there is no way in hell they can deal with realities of the world let alone understanding them.

What would BUSH say if we have a terrorist attack here in US after the election if he wins the presidency!!!!!!!! Who would he blame it on????

I was just thinking today, why don't we all vote for Bush on Nov. 2nd. The idea has two folds, 1) Bush started this mess by taking advantage of grieving people of this country after 9/11 to implement his trusted advisor's plan of reshaping the world to a kinder and gentler US supporters 2) By replacing him with Kerry this whole system based on manipulation will get a reprieve and will come later (4 or 8 years later) with the same agenda and different cover issues to continue the domination and the imperial designs.

By voting for Bush now they will have to either continue this mad plan or make a nice 180 or 360 degree turn to humanity. Because if they don't there will be nothing left of this world for them to rule and hegemonies.

I have lived in US for over 25 years and I'm still amazed how an open society with so much emphasis on individualism has been able to so systematically incorporate religious conservative ideas into her soul and soil. How could dogmatic ideas be compatible with open society's inherent secularism. How can anyone in US can rationalize legislating religious principles? The US conservative platform is of most strange mix match of ideas. All you have to do view it from outside.

The open society by definition has rejected organized religion as a glue to bond its members. The funny thing is that lots of highly educated and knowlegable folks believe that religion by that I mean only Christianity has all the answers. They see this religion as vanguard of the western civilization.....What a bunch of horse shit!!! The guardian of our civilization is our common Human experience and can not be reduced into a simple stupid geographical location.

These losers with such ideas will be extinct in a very short time. The only thing have going for them is they play with common folks fears. That is why the heartland of America is so fearful of new ideas, they have been bombarded with fear mongering by religious politicians and wacky mainstream Christian TAKING HEADS.

Solution - Grass root (not the kind you smoke) attack on their core supporters. Enlightening the people about how true separation of organized faith and politics is doable. Gradually change the way churches are structured to instill fear in people and instead give them hope in accepting change.

The facts remain illusive in this post 9/11, or for that matter even pre 9/11 era.

A coworker that just came back from Israel and Egypt mentioned what he found from talking to people over there the younger generation on both sides of the conflict are tired of these old warriors and want them both be taken away to America.

So, here is another, even better idea to not just fight terror but to eradicate it like malaria. Send the US Army to all those non-elected governments in the region and arrest all them bastered and take them to Cuba!!!

Call me crazy or what you want.

Why is it the Liberator has to disarm the Liberated??

Particularly coming from a country that "right to bear arm" is so entangled with its psychology. Iraqis have as much right to protect themselves from tyranny as anyone else. The appointed ruler of Iraq is in no position to ask let alone demand the people of Iraq to disarm. Usually and history is littered by these cases, when you disarm the people by force or bribary it will lead to more violence and killing. Is that what Bush is after? More Iraqis killing Iraqis so we'll be safer!!!!!!

I find it odd but not surprised that all the US presidents in recent memory have had full head of hair. Isn't interesting that the most powerful nation in the world can choose most of her leaders only among males with FULL HEAD OF HAIR.

I might be wrong but isn't true that most of men develop some king of balding pattern by let say 36!?!? If that is the case then aren't we selecting the most powerful leader of the world from a minority segment of the WHITE MALE population????

We are so bad at discriminating that even the poor WHITE MALE gets some of that mogo!!!!

Seriously, we all know or should know that presidential machine in this country since after the WW2 has been mostly based on presentation than content. US presidents are more like drill leaders in football games. The coaches, players, and quarterbacks come into the field after the cheering is done.

We have to find another way of electing the real players or it won't matter if the emperor is naked.

I propose that we elect the entire president and his cabinet. At the state level we elect all of these rascals separately, then why not nationally.

One other point, looking at pool of politicians that presidenta are drawn from I also do not see a bald or balding WHIITE BOY. Is this an Amercian thing or what?!?!?!?!

IF Bush is elected again in November it will let the world know that US constituents have agreed that an illegal war based on lies and misinformation (Proven) is what they have accepted. Then how can we question other nations for the same decision????

Couple of IDEAS:

A) Lets free Free Market economy from all manipulations. Let the capital enjoy all the freedom it deserves and not what an ideology or two thinks or believes what part of it is acceptable. What we currently have in the west is an experiment that has not passed the real "Human Test" test.

B)By outsourcing wars we are rekindling colonialism hated time when men were slaves and Lord ruled many. If this continues we are headed towards more strife.

Oil as a dwindling commodity and based on its environmental impacts should today be priced around let say $200 a barrel. What we have for oil price today is a fixed and manipulated price to ensure prosperity for a minority population of this world. This is the crux of the injustice that has been inflicted on the weak for over 60 years.

Fortunately the world is waking up to this injustice and people are beginning to ask what about US. The West will either give up this ill conceived idea born in colonialism or die fighting off rest of the world.

Everyone today wants to have everything that suburban middle America has or dreams to have. The whole notion that 5% of world population is using 25-30% of world's resources is not acceptable anymore. You either for globalization for all or against the majority.

The line separating Middle East and Middle America is blurring.

I plan to install a 6' sliding patio door this weekend at my home and hope all goeas well. Its been raining like cats and dogs here today.

Here is a piece of a democratic foundation:

" The people of this state do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies that serve them... The people insist on remaining informed so that they may maintain control over the instruments they have created. "--RCW 42.17.251

Hey you, hard working, free thinking, freedom loving people of the free world VOTE for whoever that is right to you. Not beacuse you don't want someone else to win, that is not an American, Afghan, or Austeralian way dude!!!!

I decided today to vote for the one I belive should lead us, after listening to Coke and Pepsi's debate.

Either one of these guys are good enough if they win. This is a no brainer.

I see that they just can't do the right thing.

Here are couple of interesting items came to my mind as I read today's news:

1) With oil supply dwindling are we ready for a global battle for oil. I am not talking about taking it form inept Arabs or Africans But fights between the most powerful consumers of this black stuff. The main axis of oil would be EU/US/China. Now " Axis of Oil Consumers" that has a better ring.

2) Does it bother anybody that these now mundane daily bombings of Iraqis by US seems to be coordinated with Israel's bombing of Palestinians. Not a day goes by that they are not killing Arabs for one reason or another. Both are saying their targets are based on very accurate "intelligence". Did we invade Iraq on some very accurate intelligence????? No baby, this is still the same story of shoot first and let the lord separate the guilty from innocent later because they (all 450M or so ARABS) attacked us.

This is a warning to all Middle Eastern dictators, king, or even half elected leaders-- once US is done with you pack your bags. The Empire will use you until you have no benefit to further the West's interests and then you are GONE.

This is mostly the case for those countries that have anything to offer for the West or so week that can be done with little collateral damage.

With this almost open declaration by the western powers it is not a surprise that all the nations that have any self respect left are pursuing the trump card!!!!

OK, I saw most of the VP debate and I'm very much confused about who is telling the truth. All I know is that truth is out there and we must find it!!!!

They both at times seemed convincing to me, but again I'm a Demuplican!!!!

Dick and Dave better not have to take over someday I hope. Dick was his usual self but Davy poo just didn't make sense. When they have to speak using talking points thats what you get. They just were not themselves and so I didn't believe either of them. They looked more like a pathetic college kids taking notes and hoping the prof will through them a good question.

Are these boys are or want to rule the most powerful country in the world. I wonder how Alexander the great, Caesar, or Napoleon would react to these boys??

What can I say about the moderator..............I'm speachless.

I am a "Demuplican" as I suspect most are:

I believe in:

Woman's Right;
Heck for that matter eveyone's Rights;
Keep your religion to yourself;
Keep the Government out of my ass;
Accountability;
True and honest Capitalism (if you try to modify it then, I want to do that too!!);
Keep the government out of messing with businesses and protecting them against customers;
No limits to LAW SUITES;
Check and Balances;
Free Press not politically correct press;
No Press Monopoly;
Elect Supreme Court Judges;
Like guns but unless eveyone is disarmed we'll have to have them;
Graduated corporate taxation so as to kill monopolies among other vises:
No corporate or civil welfare, they all have to work hard;
But we can talk about leveling the playing field for both;
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Its FUNNY:

Why is it all national politicians of the most powerful nation in the world has to mention many time in their campaign and political life "Israel"? This country of only about six million. Who in the heartland gives a shit about Israel or France???

I'm amazed how this alien phenomena has so completely permeated the political culture and no one, not even Native Americans say, what? If there are any groups of people that need to be mentioned would be the Indians and not some guys half a world away!!!!!!

What the debate missed and I expect it that much was the real issue:

When US will endure Palestinians have a nation and stop this useless need to mention Israel at every public speech.

They both mentioned Israel the other night. I am surprised they don't make them say "holocaust" five times every time.

Arabs should use their oil money to make US politicians say "Palestine" and "occupation" in one sentence.

Kerry vs Bush --------- Coke vs Pepsi

Why is it was have not been able to bring democracy and prosperity to Mexicans and central Americans for over two hundred years now and expect to give it to Iraqis!?!?!?! Its OIL stupid, these boys must have smoked some fine shit in Yale?